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Most of us go through life just going through the motions. We become a less ideal version of ourselves. We settle, we’re stuck in the same spot, and we don’t know how to get out of it. Some of us are not even aware that we’re stuck. What does living our life truly mean? Amazing human and longtime Disney distribution chief Dave Hollis was living the life everyone dreams about, but it was not in the same trajectory as his wife’s, Rachel, who was into personal development and growth. Every couple of months, they’d be a little further apart because she’d have grown and he was just cruising along. Dave shares how he finally made the decision to leave Disney and took massive action for the future of his life and his family.

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Hello: Interview With The Amazing Human, Dave Hollis

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Dave Hollis is husband to Rachel, father to Jackson, Sawyer, Ford and beautiful Noah and CEO of the Hollis Company. After a seventeen-year run at Disney, he left his role as President of the Theatrical Distribution for Walt Disney Studio. Dave looks to take his experiences as global theatrical sales head for Disney, Pixar, Marvel and Lucas Films to the expansion plans in the next exciting phase of Hollis Company focusing on media, live events and merchandise. Dave drives a ‘69 Ford Bronco and intermittently enjoys his family dog, Jeffrey. Dave, welcome to Shower Epiphanies Podcast. It’s an honor to have you on here. I can’t say how grateful I am for you taking the time to be with us.

I’m so glad and we’re like neighbors. It feels neighborly at the very least for me to be here. Thank you for having me.

Can you go over your story? How it all began for you? Even go back to high school before Pepperdine and what kid you were and where you got your inspiration.

I grew up in Southern California in the little town of San Juan Capistrano, halfway between San Diego and LA. I was a tall skinny kid. I was the kid who was an achiever. I’ve learned through a lot of the work I’ve been doing in personal development that I’m very much someone who was trying to gain the affection of my parents or friends by performing or achieving. I was the guy that got good grades. I was the kid who looked to try and get a trophy for soccer or baseball. I tried to do as many things as I could as well as I possibly could with the hope to make it into college. I went to Pepperdine University. I had a great experience.

Right out of school even before I left school, I started a career in the entertainment business. I was interning first between my junior and senior years at Pepperdine at the Twentieth Century Fox Company. I ultimately ended up getting my first job out of college at Fox. I spent a couple of years there working in television, transitioned to an agency where I was working with talents, most of them also on television. I segued into doing some marketing and ultimately got a phone call one day from a recruiter about working at the Walt Disney Company. I started what then was the beginning of a seventeen-year journey inside of the Walt Disney Company, where for the first ten or so years I worked in packaged media, DVDs and Blue-rays. In the last seven years, I worked in the theatrical business putting really great movies into movie theaters. That’s my school and professional journey. You mentioned at the top I am husband to an amazing human. Her name is Rachel Hollis. She’s an author, speaker, coach and a teacher.

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She created a company right around the time that we got married. It started as an event planning business that turned into a blog that became a media company called Chic Media. We started seriously having a conversation about in order to scale it. We probably needed to think seriously about a thing that we toyed with for years, which was working together. We moved our family from Los Angeles. I left my job at Disney and we moved to Dripping Springs where we are neighbors. We started doing our work together in something that we now call the Hollis Company, which is a company that exists to put tools in the hands of people. If they were to use them, hopefully, it will have an effect in a positive way in their life.

Living your dream, is it your dream?

I came out of an environment where the job I had was the proverbial dream. It’s the thing that everyone on the outside would say was the dream job. I was working for the last seven or so years at Disney as the Head of Sales on our theatrical business; movies and theaters. That was Marvel, Lucas, Pixar, Disney and Disney animation. From Star Wars, Avengers, Frozen, you name it, big movies, putting them into theaters. It was from the outside looking in a dream job but the challenge as it were is because of how strong those brands are, how strong the team I was working with was, the strength of Disney as a company, it didn’t require the fullness of my potential to do well in that job.

In the absence of having to use my full potential, it turned into not a dream job. The pursuit of doing this thing with my wife has been to put myself into environments where I have not yet figured out how to do the thing that we’re trying to do so that in the discomfort or uncertainty of that I might grow. There’s a huge connection between growth and fulfillment. I am on a pursuit to be as fulfilled as possible, while at the same time chasing impact. It’s the hope that we can use the gifts that we’ve been given to help other humans reach a higher level of themselves at the same time.

When you talk about not being fulfilled, most people couldn’t make any sense of that because they wouldn’t understand. You had a team that was doing everything and it was great and all that movement in your life. When it gets to be your inner self, there’s a lot that is connected to expectations. I believe that expectations are the seed from which we grow. Everything we do is predicated on an expectation. I challenge people all the time. Tell me one thing that you do that is not seated in expectation. I have yet to have anyone be able to tell me one thing that they do because everything is preceded with it. I also believe that our epiphanies are a direct link to our expectations. They’re the first step to our expectations. Did you have epiphanies about where you were going to go with this? People sometimes mistake epiphanies for this grandiose boom in your head but epiphanies can come in small increments and move you in certain ways.

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Amazing Human: The Hollis Company exists to put tools in the hands of people that, if they were to use them, hopefully will have an effect in a positive way on their life.

 

I can identify the boom moment. It felt like a thing but not as big as I have attached value to it in retrospect. I have four kids. At the time, I had three. We adopted our daughter. My three boys and I are in the spa at our house. We are sitting in what for us was a nightly or every few nights activity of you can ask me any question. I will to the extent that it doesn’t veer into inappropriate, give you an honest answer. My kids, for the most part, asked questions about gross, ridiculous, dumb stuff because they were eight, seven, and four. At the time it’s exactly what you might expect. My seven-year-old at the time asked this question, “Dad, what are you most afraid of in your life?” That question is innocent. He’s looking for tarantulas, snakes, or the things that a seven or eight-year-old kid might be looking for and out of my mouth fell, “Not living up to my potential,” and it was jarring.

It was the epiphany at that moment that I was making decisions that had me feeling a little bit like a sellout of sorts. I was taking the benefit of a nice paying job, the benefit of the cache that came with being the Head of Distribution at the biggest media company on earth. Taking it in exchange for pushing myself into places that might actually fully use my potential, acted as leverage, acted as a catalyst. I didn’t like the idea of modeling for my three boys that you should settle for unfulfillment if you can pay your mortgage. You should settle for not being challenged if the outside world and their expectations are exceeded by the way you live your life. You’ve got to live your life for you and you’ve got to do something that uses everything that is inside of you.

It’s very in line with what I preach. Our kids do mirror what we do. They follow in our footsteps, they take our lead and it’s critical that parents don’t settle but they do it all the time. As you’ve seen in the RISE Movement, lots of people that have come through the movement who are stuck in that same spot all the time and don’t know how to get out of it, don’t how to do to take the next step. How did you take the next step? What separates you from everybody is taking action and you started to change.

I’d love to say I decided that I would do all of these great things right away, but that was of course not the case. It took slowly and consistently becoming a less ideal version of myself until it reached a serious conversation with my wife about whether or not I was going to live my life or have my life live me. The way that I think I had probably dealt with stuff that was challenging for me for most of my life. I was pushing it off and trying to mute it by taking long runs, putting on headphones, playing video games and drinking too much. That made me not the father that my kids deserved or the husband that my wife deserved. It happened too serendipitously, I hit a tipping point in my relationship with my wife right around the same time that her book, Girl, Wash Your Face was about to come out. She had been active in investing in personal development. She’d been really active in reaching every day for a better version of herself.

That pursuit had her growing in a way that was in contrast, direct opposition to my having each day become a little less cool, less great and less inspired version of myself. We sat down. Bizarrely, we came out of a vacation where it did not go well. We had a hard conversation about the trajectory of our individual lives that she knew she was going to continue to grow every single day. It was a thing that she valued more than almost anything else. If I didn’t take an active choice in also wanting to grow every single day, that in three months we’d be a little further apart because she’d have grown, and I wouldn’t have. In six months, we might not be going on these regular date nights. In twelve months, we might not be having the intimacy as regularly as we want to. In two years, we might not be married. That was the leverage. That, “Holy goodness, what are you talking about?” There’s a chance that if I don’t take this seriously and take massive action that I could jeopardize the future of my life with my wife and kids.

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Anything that shakes you at your roots like that is going to either make you or break you. In so many couples, it breaks them. The husband doesn’t want to do the work or the wife doesn’t want to do the work. I know that you’ve been in research, publicity and talent management and all that. People who I found get so well-rounded are able to transition from their thought process. They transition much better than people who are stuck in one place for so long. Do you think that that helped you in actually growing or was it something different?

I think it helps but the biggest help was becoming comfortable to dig into why I did the things that I did in my life. Why was I motivated or not? Why did I have a certain mindset or not? Why did I react the way that I did to the things that I reacted to? In understanding the why behind my actions, I could get in front of the choices that didn’t serve me. I can get in front of the times when I wasn’t going to show up as well. I had to first get through a stigma that therapy was bad or there was some indictment on me being broken or weak. I had to get past the stigma that personal development was for people that weren’t wired right. If someone was going to get help, it was from the way my brain was wired from an early age and indictment on being good. Once I was able to throw that garbage, those were lies. I do understand how they became a part of this society I grew up in and the way that I was raised and everything else.

That being discarded allowed me to invest in sitting on a couch with a stranger in therapy and digging into stuff, going to personal development conferences and reading books for the first time. In that, I was able to understand that I’d grown up for the most part with a fixed mindset. I thought that I was bestowed a certain number of fixed traits that those were the things that I could use. If I used them and got to the top of what those things were, then there was a ceiling, it was done. I’ve embraced a growth mindset in a way that has completely changed the way I think about what’s possible for my life and what’s possible for my relationships. That’s been a huge difference. I’ve come to understand why I’ve interacted with people the way that I’ve interacted with them. In understanding that, you can think differently about things that are happening in your unconscious that are happening as a part of the habit. Show up in a way that actually fuels and serves you instead of a way that gets in your own way.

When you were a kid, did you come from a stable background?

Yes. I had good parents. They are loving. They’re still married. We were raised in the church. I got good grades, and they were always there. It was a great upbringing. When I think about why do I have a fixed mindset? It’s hard to go back and pinpoint individual things that happened during my life, but it was part of who I was.

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Amazing Human: In understanding the why behind your actions, you can get in front of the choices that don’t serve you.

 

A lot of it is that era in time. You were told you’re going to go work for the same company for 20, 30 years, get the gold watch and all that. You didn’t share your personal story with anybody. You kept it to yourself, you kept the skeletons in the closet and all those kinds of things. In the ‘80s, ‘90s, we started to break out of that when personal development started coming into the forefront. One of the things for me, I fell apart when I lost my wife of 38 years to ovarian cancer and I started drinking. I hadn’t been a big drinker ever in my life and started acting like a jerk at 60 years.

When I was younger, my parents have no expectations. They had no guidance, no anything with their kids, they just existed. I had probably the biggest abandonment issue that I had to overcome. I went in the Marine Corps and got the structure and the discipline that I had never had in my life. It really changed my life and that was a catalyst for me. I went to Vietnam. We’ll talk about that story another time, but I tried to adopt a little Vietnamese girl that was in an orphanage and I was eighteen years old Marine. The Marine Corps wouldn’t let me bring her back and we lost her in the Tet Offensive. I paid for her schooling and everything. These major events happen in our lives and move us.

In your case, it wasn’t a major event. It was a progression over time that you had a realization or epiphany and your expectations changed. I find that interesting because a lot of people when they have to do the work that you’re talking about, they give up. They quit and you didn’t. Where it led you is incredible, with what’s happening with the Hollis Company and the growth that it’s going through. I know that Rachel talks about wanting to be bigger than Tony Robbins. My prediction and you can put this down on paper, she will be bigger and better in every facet. She’s incredible and we’re blessed to have somebody like that that is so willing to help so many people. That’s a beautiful thing. I want to get away from a little bit of this, but I want to know about your ‘69 Bronco.

The Incredible Hulk. What’s interesting is part of the timing of my conversation with my kid in the spa, Rachel’s growing into this personal development human, I’m having the season of unfulfillment also is taking place as I am crossing this bridge for my 30s to my 40s. I’m 43 years old but right around the time that I am turning 40, I am having the most classic midlife crisis. That happens to coincide also with that year at the Walt Disney Company, setting a record for the biggest box office here in the history of the business, topped off by Star Wars: The Force Awakens in December. The way that bonuses worked over at the company, they happen right there at the last couple of weeks of December. If it wasn’t serendipitous, Star Wars opens to a record number of box office dollars on the same day they give us our bonus. I’m having a meltdown. What is the thing you do while you’re having a meltdown and you get your bonus on Star Wars weekend? You start to build a ‘69 Ford Bronco. It’s a thing of beauty. It is wonderful but it was also the longest process that I have ever taken on. I thought it was going to cost one thing. It’s like maybe building a house from scratch. It did not cost what I thought it would. I’m glad that you like it, it’s great but if I were to do it over, I’d buy a used Subaru because it would have been way less heartburn.

You actually did the physical rebuilding of it? Did you have it redone?

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I bought a Bronco in Nevada for $700. It was a wreck. I sent it to a group of humans who professionally restore cars and then piece by piece they built this thing back to its glory. I thought it was going to be six months, but it was about two years’ worth of time. I bought it and built it while I thought I was still going to be working forever at the Walt Disney Company. We made this decision to move, I met it in Dripping Springs the week before the moving van got here with my kids.

I love old cars but there’s something else I’d like to ask you about that’s near and dear to my heart, I see that you’re also involved with Austin Angels.

I am, we have our four children. We adopted the last of our four, but that adoption was about a five-year journey that took us through a crazy rollercoaster of emotions, systems, and different ways that you can bring kids into your family. We started in international adoption. We were going to adopt through Ethiopia. A couple at our church had themselves adopted. We thought we would go down that path for a little more than a year and a half. We were in a program that was going to have us meeting a child and bringing one back from Ethiopia to be in our family. The program closed down. There was some bad stuff happening with human trafficking to be totally honest inside of Ethiopia that made that thing not a thing. We had to pivot into what was next.

Next for us was asking where there was a need in the county of Los Angeles where there is a serious foster care crisis that’s happening on every day. They had a program that you could enter into that was about fostering to adopt. In addition to the four kids that we have, we have been foster parents to four kids as well. That experience was transformative in a lot of ways. Some of the willingness to jump into uncertainty was born in embracing the uncertainty of our foster care experience during the 2016 year. Unfortunately, the brokenness of that system left us in one of the situations thinking we were adopting a pair of twins that we’d taken home from the hospital at five days old only to find out a few months in that there were some biological people of the twins involved in trying to take custody.

We ended up having them with us and then not with us. That lit us little a fuse for us that will burn forever to try and be supportive of and involved in charities that help support foster care. Whether it’s like what Austin Angels does, coming around both the kids who are in care but also the families who feel called into be foster parents that we’re always want to be involved. We met Susan Ramirez, who’s their CEO. We have become friends with her and her husband Chris. I had been involved in the last few years and love the work that they’re doing. There are plenty of organizations that are doing great work for foster. If you are a person who feels called into being a foster parent, having a community like the community that Austin Angels affords the families is a huge difference maker. It’s being able to traverse the brokenness that exists inside of the system and the tragedy that it’s built on top of.

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Amazing Human: There is a serious foster care crisis that’s happening every day.

 

It is broken, that’s for sure. One of my dreams has always been to have a piece of land somewhere and build a facility where I would take every child that is unwanted. I’d love to do that. That’s on the back-burner dreams at 72 years old but I’ll keep doing it, I’ll keep going, striving for it. One of the things that were coming into my head, an epiphany that I was having is that when you were going through all this, you have a tremendous amount of faith. We see our expectations in two lenses, either faith or fear. Of course, fear always tops but faith isn’t always in religious faith. It is for me and I make an assumption that it is for you but for most people it’s not. Faith can be in a coach, a counselor, it can be in Dave Hollis, it can be in Rachel Hollis, it can be in Art Costello. It can be in any of us but as long as you have that faith to know in the end that everything is going to work out the way it is because faith is seeing and believing in the unbelievable. You have a tremendous amount of faith because it’s over and over I see and hear you saying. Where other people would have quit, you have the faith to keep going and keep doing, which is the other key. People talk about things all the time. When I speak at high schools and middle schools, I always tell the kids, “Go become a doer all over the earth.”

My wife has said this so many times and I don’t want to steal her line but it’s one that I think we live by. Some of the product of some of the harder seasons of our life is this thing and that is you have to ask yourself, “Is this happening to me or is this happening for me?” If you can adopt a perspective of the thing that you’re going through as for you and appreciate it with some gratitude even it’s hard, it will change the way that you think about or have to deal with that question of faith or not faith. It’s happening anyway, if you can change the perspective that you have on the why, see the good that can come from it and choose to push your way through it, even on the days that it’s hard.

There’s a whole separate line of talk on doing the things that you don’t necessarily want to do. The difference between good and great people is the great people do the hard things, even on the days they don’t want to do them. We’re trying to do a lot of ambitious, audacious work. To do that, we’ve got to keep our health in order. We got to manage a crazy schedule. Getting up and going to the gym on every single day basis as a thing that we commit to doing. There are plenty of days where I wake up and I have no interest at 5:00 AM in going to the gym but I do it anyway. If I let this body of mine go sideways, I can’t be the dad my kids deserve. I can’t be the husband my wife deserves, and I can’t lead the team in the way that they need.

It always goes back to taking care of yourself before you can take care of somebody else. You’ll have to not only spiritually, mentally but physically and do that. You’re in the midst of publishing a book, writing a book.

I am.

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Can we talk about that?

My inspiration, my wife wrote something that was brave and it is bold transparency. She decided to be honest about things that she struggled with in her life. With a little bit of observation on how and having deconstructed some lies that she believed that held her back, she was able to become a better version of herself. The more that I’ve sat with the experience of watching how people have responded to her book and my own journey from having believed a bunch of things that held me back to now in this new world, having dismissed those things as being ridiculous or lies, the opportunity to try and write a version of what she wrote, Girl, Wash Your Face is where I’m headed. It’s tentatively Dude, Wash Your Face. It could be Dude, Get Out Of Your Way, whatever it ends up being. It’s the same idea, this idea that there are things that we as men have believed over the course of time that have kept us from being the best versions of ourselves. If we were to see the truth that makes those lies not believable, we can become and do more things.

You answered one of the questions that I had if it was going to be geared towards men because it’s needed. It’s filling a need.

The reality is as much as I’m writing it and the language I use in it is, “Hey guy, hey dude, hey man,” I also hope that if there’re women who are interested and understanding the perspective that their man may have or the things they might be thinking that are blocking them from getting to the better version of themselves as a husband or father. They’ll also be interested in reading it as well. Obviously, I’m immersed in a community because of my wife that has more women than men. Trust that we’re going to be selling it as available to all.

Anytime a woman can gain perspective on how a man thinks, she’s ahead of the game. It’s a problem not only for men but for women too. It works both ways. I know you had Gary Chapman on your podcast. In The Five Love Languages, mine is service, that’s my love language and it has ruled my life. I’ve always been of service to others and to my family.

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Amazing Human: There are things that we have believed over the course of time that has kept us from being the best versions of ourselves, and if we were to see the truth that makes those lies not believable, we can become and do more things.

 

The interesting thing is things like that conversation. The Five Love Languages, even the idea, the revelation that children have love languages when they are young was a mindblower for me. I grew up thinking that things like that were hooey, I dismiss them as being ridiculous. If there’s a role that I can play in being an advocate to the skeptic, to embrace the practical application of something that is not that complicated but is universally true, it will transform the way that men are able to connect with their wives or that fathers are able to connect with their children.

I mentioned this on our strange morning show called the Start Today morning show. I was mentioning that I have in one of my children, a child who needs a lot of attention. I’d seen that need for attention, to be honest, annoying. I was like, “Why do you need so much attention?” I have this interview with Dr. Chapman and I have this epiphany that my kid is not interested in attention. My kid is interested in love and his love language is quality time. I sat in his room, let him read two chapters of a book to me. Before I heard Dr. Chapman explained this to me, I would have perceived his need for me to sit there while he read as, “More? We just threw the football together. We were before that doing a run together.” I didn’t because I said, “I’m going to love on this kid.”

If sitting here connecting with him without my phone, letting him read to me, lets him get the love the way he’s hoping to have it delivered to him. That epiphany happened in my life. I’m 43, it happened one day. I’ve been a father for eleven years, it happened one day. That resources existed by the way for me as a father for eleven years. I never paid attention to it, I didn’t know it existed. If I can do anything in helping other people who are interested in knowing why I can’t connect with my wife or why I can connect with my kids, understand that these tools exist, I want to do it.

Knowledge is golden. For me, a big part of it is learning how to expect. One of the things that I’m trying to do, I’m actually creating a comic book now to teach preschoolers and grammar schoolers how to expect. When people say, “Don’t have any expectations,” my blood cringes in my veins because it’s impossible not to expect. It’s flat out impossible not to. What has always made sense to me is manage your expectations. That’s where the expectation therapy is based on is managing your expectations that teach people but I want to teach children that. My life when I was nine years old, I was pretty much feeling abandoned. I used to go to this top of this hill and lay on my back and have a conversation with God and ask what was going to become of me. I heard a voice deep down inside of me that said, “Be faithful and do.” It became the whole catalyst for my whole life. I want to do, I want to help people and all that. I believe it with all my heart and soul.

That has made such a difference because no matter what obstacle has come before me, Vietnam, the loss of my wife, 30 some years of owning a business that drove me nuts, all those things I always realized after she passed away. I was out at the ranch in Griffin and my kids came and said, “Dad, you promised mom you weren’t going to do this.” I was drinking, being a jerk, and everything else. 2:00 in the morning, I got up and went out on my front lawn, laid on my back again and I had the conversation with God. I heard this coming out of my body and it said, “I’ve given you all the tools, get up and do it.” I did and that’s when I started writing expectation therapy and it evolved out of that. You’re so right about perspective and how we think about it. Many people have these ideas but they don’t listen to them. They don’t listen to their inner self. They don’t listen and take action, they’re scared they live in fear.

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I’ll say this because when you say expectation therapy, what’s interesting is the reason that I did not move as quickly to what is the fullest use of my passion. The scariness that actually produces all the growth that I’m looking for is the want for staying in line with the expectations of others. The opinions of other people, their expectations on my living my life in a way that makes sense for them. For a lot of people, they’re living their life in a way that makes sense for those people. It usually ends up being one of the biggest things that keep them from chasing the passions of their life. If I can say anything, six months removed from my experience of telling an industry, telling a bunch of people I worked with who were amazing, telling a lot of people who did not understand, “Has Dave lost his mind? He’s leaving.” I was so worried about their opinion of what I was doing.

The headline is people aren’t thinking about you. People aren’t worried about you, they aren’t. As much as I’ve stayed connected to some of the crew that I worked with for those seventeen years, no one’s spending time pining over a decision I made that does not affect them at all any longer. The sooner you can realize that chasing the passion, the thing that’s thumping inside of your heart, that potential that God’s put in your body whatever it might be, even and as it doesn’t make sense to other people. Push aside their expectations for you so that you can live up to the expectation you set for yourself, and the sooner you’re going to find happiness.

That’s what expectation therapy is based on. It actually comes out of the formula I learned in physics and I converted it into a behavioral model. It’s basically to identify, clarify and solidify with a written plan. That’s expectation therapy. You’re right, I write about what I call collective diminished expectations. That is how advertisers, governments, churches, schools, all control our expectations. We have the fear of loss. If you don’t tithe, you’re not going to heaven. I can go through a whole litany of things like that.

You hit the nail on the head with it. What really matters is what your core expectations are, what you expect of yourself, how you move on that, and how you move forward. It’s huge in your life. When people tell me that expectations don’t matter, other people’s expectations don’t matter. That’s what Shakespeare and all the people that wrote these negative quotes about expectations, that’s what they were dwelling on. When you shift your thought into positive expectations and what they can do for you, your life does change. I’m living proof of it, you’re living proof of it. We’re nearing the end of our time together.

Thank you, Art, for having me. It’s been so nice to chat. I’m glad that we finally got this on the calendar. Thank you for being so patient with my crazy schedule.

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Amazing Human: The sooner you start chasing the passion, that thing that’s thumping inside of your heart, the sooner you’re going to find happiness.

 

That’s fine, Dave. I know how busy you are and I value people’s time. We live in the same little town, which is another whole story. I want to thank you, there were some powerful notes that they should have taken during this conversation about changing their lives. What one thing would you like to leave my audience with?

I do think that we as individuals have the ability to control the way that we perceive the world. If you can stay really grounded in a posture of gratitude, that you can create the positivity that you’re hoping for in your day, I tend to wrap our morning show all the time with this reminder, “Whether you think you’re going to have a good day or a bad day, you’re right. Why not choose to have a good day?”

Those were some powerful words. Thank you, Dave Hollis and I look forward to doing this again soon. Meet you, we’ll go have a cup of coffee and dripping sometime. I want to check out that old Bronco that you got.

That sounds good, Art. Have a great day. Thanks for having me.

Thank you. Thank you, Dave Hollis. Go to his website, go to all of his upcoming books, everything that’s going to be coming out and you will learn many things. Thank you, fans.

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About Dave Hollis

SE 9 | Amazing HumanDave Hollis is husband to Rachel, father to Jackson, Sawyer, Ford and Noah and the CEO of the Hollis Company after a 17-year run at Disney he left his role as President, Theatrical Distribution for The Walt Disney Studios. Dave looks to take the experiences as global theatrical sales head for Disney, Pixar, Marvel, and Lucas film to the expansion plans in the next, exciting phase of Hollis Company — focusing on media (books/podcasts/radio/tv), live events (more of this) and merchandise (all. the. things.) Dave drives a 1969 Ford Bronco and intermittently enjoys the family dog, Jeffrey.

 

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